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I have expanded an article to un-orphan another article. Does one connection suffice to remove the orphan warning template at the top, or should more be established? The previously orphaned article in question is SAP Anywhere ElizabethIsAlive (talk) 10:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can remove it if there is at least one link. By the way, you should probably add a citation to the addition you made to the other page just so the section and link don't get removed. HansVonStuttgart (talk) 11:18, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ElizabethIsAlive - "Once it has an incoming link from at least one article or list, the orphan tag can be removed (disambiguation pages, redirects and draft articles do not count)." Quoted from banner on one the monthly backlog categories. More info at Wikipedia:Orphan. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 18:02, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But WP:ORPHAN also states: More colloquially, editors also sometimes use "orphan" to refer to pages that do not have as many incoming links as they ought to, even if they do not meet the technical definition for orphan status. The Banner talk 19:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's true, but it basically means one link needed, though Mrfoogles (talk) 20:35, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^_@ 176.113.115.186 (talk) 17:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What If Freedom Caucus was a hypothetical European political party? would it belong to Identity and Democracy Party or European Conservatives and Reformists? If so, why do you think it would belong to the party. I am willing to hear your opinion and explanation why. 97.97.98.76 (talk) 06:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! That's not really relevant to Wikipedia; we answer questions about Wikipedia here. If you have any questions relating to editing or other aspects of the project, that's the purpose of this page. Happy editing ... sawyer * he/they * talk 06:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be perfectly clear, speculation by editors is not permitted on Wikipedia. The role of Wikipedia editors is to summarize what reliable sources say. Nothing more and nothing less. Cullen328 (talk) 06:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, If I was going off topic. I was curious to sees, but I promise to stay on topic and uses Teahouse properly.  97.97.98.76 (talk) 06:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I have a hypothetical question, where should I go to? 174.135.36.220 (talk) 03:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, why does anonymous numbers change every time? 174.135.36.220 (talk) 03:18, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

you're editing on an IP, which are reassigned periodically. as for your other question, you're welcome to ask hypothetical questions of that nature elsewhere on the internet, like Reddit, but you should keep things relevant to Wikipedia here. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 03:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, but I unfortunately have no reddit account and I want to hear if Freedom Caucus would belong to ID party or ECR party. 174.135.36.220 (talk) 03:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

you're not going to get an answer here ... sawyer * he/they * talk 03:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You know what? I actually chose CER for Freedom Caucus. 

1. Both support economic freedom and limited government. 
2. Social Conservatism is also common with ECR like Brothers of Italy. 
3. Both support national identity. 
4. ECR and Freedom Caucus have devolution of power. 
5. Freedom Caucus and European Conservatives & Reformists also have right-wing populism like Law & Justice (Poland), JA21 (The Netherlands), Sweden Democrats (Sweden) and Vox (Spain).

So, therefore, it would be more likely to be European Conservatives & Reformist if Freedom Caucus were an European party. 174.135.36.220 (talk) 04:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again, this isn't the place to ask this type of question. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 04:49, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opps, sorry. 174.135.36.220 (talk) 05:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is the difference between liberalism and social liberalism as I noticed that some ideology has the same meaning that I removed them, ex. in Swiss People's Party, swiss nationalism, national conservatism and anti-immigration have the same meaning, so I removed these.  I was told that we have to keep Political Parties' articles simple in its template and ideologies. How do I carefully removed something from templates, so it will not get messed up.  174.135.36.220 (talk) 17:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you edit too much, can you get blocked for it since I am fixing some political party's article to make it simpler on template as some have same meaning or just too much. When is it too much? 

Thank you from 174.135.36.220 174.135.36.220 (talk) 21:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@174.135.36.220

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse, your question does not reflect Wikipedia but there is an article about European Freedom Caucus, I suggest you look there. Thanks! 2600:8804:8A81:FA00:C486:85E4:D18E:1F1 (talk) 02:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I meant European Political Party Freedom Caucus. My Bad. 2600:8804:8A81:FA00:C486:85E4:D18E:1F1 (talk) 02:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There seem to be enough references for WP:GNG in the lede of Dmytro Kushneruk. Could someone check, opine, and maybe remove the warning? Thx Trzb (talk) 04:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trzb Six refs in the Lead to confirm he is a dipiomat is over-referencing. (Perhaps some of those can be moved to the section about the Russian invasion.) In general, government appointments (diplomats, government, military) are less likely to have Wikipedia-notable careers compared to elected. David notMD (talk) 10:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@David notMD, thank you for your response. I don't disagree about moving the refs (and can make the changes when the main issue is addressed), but hope this in no way affects sufficient media coverage per WP:GPG. Not sure how Kushneruk's being appointed affects the interpretation of media coverage. Trzb (talk) 08:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

please find reliable source in the below link no where it is mentioned that we are shudra

see and change it

https://pure.northampton.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/55104710/Haridarshan_Pooja_2021_The_influence_of_the_childhood_experiences_of_women_in_Bangalore_India_upon_their_aspirations_for_their_children_socio-cultural_and_academic_perspectives_A_community_based_study.pdf

Harishsk2022 (talk) 09:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for questions on how to edit Wikipedia. The place to propose improvements to an article is the talk page of that article, in this case Talk:Devanga. Please provide a reliable source for your proposal. The fact that some source does not assert something is irrelevant. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

please find reliable source in the below link no where it is mentioned that we are shudra

see and change it

https://pure.northampton.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/55104710/Haridarshan_Pooja_2021_The_influence_of_the_childhood_experiences_of_women_in_Bangalore_India_upon_their_aspirations_for_their_children_socio-cultural_and_academic_perspectives_A_community_based_study.pdf

Harishsk2022 (talk) 09:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stop adding this everywhere. Please. You did this to my talk page already. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 09:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When it will get updated?? ??

How long time it will take!? Harishsk2022 (talk) 09:44, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Harishsk2022 You have made edit requests at Talk:Devanga which have all been denied. Asking the same here at Teahouse has no purpose. Please stop. David notMD (talk) 09:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to edit you just remove that word shudra from the devanga Wikipedia page

Hello

please find reliable source in the below link no where it is mentioned that we are shudra

see and change it

https://pure.northampton.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/55104710/Haridarshan_Pooja_2021_The_influence_of_the_childhood_experiences_of_women_in_Bangalore_India_upon_their_aspirations_for_their_children_socio-cultural_and_academic_perspectives_A_community_based_study.pdf

Harishsk2022 (talk) 09:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At WP:ANI there is now a recommendation that User:Harishsk2022 be indefinitely blocked. David notMD (talk) 10:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have blocked them for one week for "disruptive editing" and have left an explanatory message on their talk page so they understand why their constant demands everywhere to make an edit they want has proven disruptive to everyone else. Hopefully, they will not try the same tactic again once the block expires, or it may become permanent. Competence is required. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE: Now blocked for a further week for continuing their disruptive tactic on their talk page! Nick Moyes (talk) 13:55, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As a heads up, they came onto #wikipedia-en-help on IRC and demanded we unblock them and "address [their] concern". —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Source assessment notes} 02:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried restarting my computer, and the error still pops up. Any way I could fix this? TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 15:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...okay, it's gone now? TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 15:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same here, the visual editor is not working, It worked that’s why I removed my topic from here but as I am checking from phone it is not loading. Grabup (talk) 15:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Grabup See WP:VPT § Can't edit where others are reporting similar issues and where the experts hang out. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:15, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now it's back again. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 15:28, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Technical discussion since January, when it first occurred. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TrademarkedTWOrantula

Hi! And welcome to the Teahouse! It seems like there is a Technical Difficulty going on here. I have not gotten the error yet but have you tried resetting the cache? Maybe try that and see if it works. HermoineGranger54 (talk) 16:36, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to work. Thank you! TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 18:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Np. Glad I could help! HermoineGranger54 (talk) 18:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I can't find the page about the guidelines and criteria on reporting inactive users, could you please direct me toward it? I just realized that user:Mzajac has been gone from en.wiki for an unusual amount of time compared to how much he usually edits. Cheers. Encyclopédisme (talk) 16:20, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just read the talk page archives and turns out he hasn’t been editing since his last topic ban. Encyclopédisme (talk) 16:24, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Encyclopédisme I don't understand why "reporting inactive users" would be of interest to anyone. To whom would you report them and why? Most people here are volunteers who might give up editing for any number of reasons. On the other hand, if you know of a deceased editor, see the guidance at WP:DECEASED. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I remember a page explaining how and when to put a template "inactive user" or something like that. Maybe it’s just me, and that doesn’t actually exist. Encyclopédisme (talk) 17:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Encyclopédisme: See {{Not around}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Encyclopédisme (talk) 19:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There was a company page for CitrusAd (a retail media company) but it was removed. I don't know why it was removed, but I would like edit it so it is accessible for others to know the history of the company, but I am not sure how to find it or where to start. TLN27 (talk) 16:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The page was moved to a draft on 5 November, 2022 for "Quarantine likely covert advertising" The draft was then deleted under WP:G13 on 3 May, 2023 because it was deemed to be abandoned. You can request that it be refunded to you at WP:REFUND/G13. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 16:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for informing me. I do not understand "refunding" it to me. I did not pay for anything- I was only going to edit or update it. Does "refund" in this instance mean, I would take "ownership" of it or it would then be put in my hands for editing? Thank you for your guidance. TLN27 (talk) 16:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It means you could edit it, not that you own it. What is your connection to the page? Equine-man (talk) 16:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have connection to it in that I specialize in retail communications in the space of CPG (consumer packaged goods) and retail media. My connection to the page is I formerly worked on PR projects for that company prior to them being sold. I continue to work in the retail media space, but with other clients and companies. TLN27 (talk) 16:58, 14 April 2024 I would appreciate any help in how to properly restore it and resolve any issues. I am new here-- so I'm sorry if this is like hand holding. TLN27 (talk) 17:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Refunding essentially means that it will be returned to its draft state. As Equine above asked, do you have a connection to this page at all? CommissarDoggo^Talk? 16:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have connection to it in that I specialize in retail communications in the space of CPG (consumer packaged goods) and retail media. My connection to the page is I formerly worked on PR projects for that company prior to them being sold. I continue to work in the retail media space, but with other clients and companies. TLN27 (talk) 16:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, TLN27. "REFUND" here has nothing to do with the ordinary English word "refund", but is a bit of Wikipedia jargon for "Request For UNDeletion". ColinFine (talk) 18:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CommissarDoggo: Please don't use jargon like "refunded" here on the Teahouse page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Edit support,

I am trying to build a Wikipedia page for Victoria Wyeth, I am receiving no benefit for my actions. I do not know Victoria but I do have her permission to proceed with this endeavor. My first submissions has ben denied approval on the grounds of notability and neutrality. I do believe that Victoria is sufficiently notable because she is an active part of the Wyeth legacy. Victoria is working to improve the public knowledge through her presentations.

But, when I try to develop a better submission to get over the notability question, I fall foul of the neutrality rule.

What can I do to correct or improve my submission?

Paul Paul7384 (talk) 16:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The large majority of the page is uncited and does not at all sound like it's presented in WP:WIKIVOICE.

As an example, the first paragraph reads "Victoria Wyeth is an accomplished and passionate lecturer, traveling world wide, her audiences benefit from her unique perspective through her first hand experience combined with her extensive research. As the granddaughter of renowned artist Andrew Wyeth, she carries forward a legacy of creativity and talent. Additionally, being the great-granddaughter of the celebrated illustrator N.C. Wyeth and the niece of contemporary realist Jamie Wyeth, Victoria is an active part of a remarkable artistic dynasty. The daughter of Nicholas and Jane Wyeth. Her father, Nicholas, is a private art dealer, while her mother, Jane, is an art advisor with a background in art history." To put it simply and rather bluntly, it reads like a PR puff piece.

I would personally nuke this and completely rewrite it, focusing on what reliable, secondary sources are saying about this person. If you cannot find reliable, secondary sources, then you do not have a page. See WP:BACKWARDS for more on that. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 16:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’d also steer clear from editing the page due to your possible conflict of interest. Equine-man (talk) 16:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Equine-man Editors with a conflict of interest are not prohibited from creating articles, provided they use the WP:AfC process, which Paul is doing. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, but they should also declare such COI beforehand. Equine-man (talk) 16:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Paul7384 Apart from the tone of the draft, you are not complying with this policy for biographies of living people, which you need to read carefully. You also need to show that she is wikinotable in the way that's defined here. Interviews are not an acceptable way to do that, since inevitably people talk about themselves in a favourable way. You need sources which meet all of these criteria. As a newcomer to editing, you might be better to build your skills by editing existing articles on topics that interest you. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:53, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted a lot of the laudatory content, but in my opinion she has not accomplished anything that makes Draft:Victoria Wyeth Wikipedia-notable. David notMD (talk) 18:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Paul7384 At risk of a "pile-on", I would add that being "an active part of the Wyeth legacy" is really not sufficient to justify an article about a person. All I see is that Victoria is active in giving lectures about her illustrious ancestors and relatives, but that she, herself, has not garnered much attention otherwise. In essence: Notability is not inherited.

A good source that shows her ancestry and her activity (like this one), could possibly be used in a single sentence on the articles about those ancestors to show her family ties and their artistic legacy that she promotes today. But it would need to be short, very carefully worded, and not forced into an article for its own sake.

I was slightly bemused by one other statement you made, namely, "I do not know Victoria but I do have her permission to proceed with this endeavor." Firstly, if you've made some contact with her, it suggests you do in some way know her but, more importantly, we do not ever need the approval of any notable subject to create a Wikipedia article about them. We only use sources that are in the public domain to compile articles, so permission is never needed.

I'm sorry this does not sound too positive. Until she becomes notable in her own right (see WP:NBIO or WP:NARTIST), I fear you might be struggling to make progress. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I didn’t understand the rules sufficiently to make a good submission. I have listened to one zoom presentation by Victoria and I watched a presentation of hers at an organized event. I haven’t spoken with her directly. I sent her some communications about Wikipedia. I was very impressed by her work, that’s it really. I can see that opening the page is going to be difficult. Thank you for considering my submission. Paul7384 (talk) 23:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've recently started editing and I saw a story about someone who got falsely banned and I'm wondering if it could happen to me? BlackbirdRed (talk) 19:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. It's difficult to respond without knowing what you saw. There is a difference between a ban and a block. Many blocked(or banned) users think their block/ban is false when it actually isn't. 331dot (talk) 19:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks that helps a lot! BlackbirdRed (talk) 19:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"False banning" might also mean, telling someone that they're banned when they aren't, but they believe you and stop editing. Maproom (talk) 21:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I like to request that the Draft:Silvia Steiger is moved to my userspace, so I can continue to work on it.

I don't understand how I do so.

Could you please help me with this?

Thanks and kindly regards

Vandepaerela (talk) 20:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vandepaerela: Now at User:Vandepaerela/Silvia Steiger. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to create templates on Wiki and can it be created visually? MoCars (talk) 01:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Template and Help:A quick guide to templates. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 02:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all. I'm working on big changes to a company page. My mentor helped me create a sandbox environment to create a draft for these changes. I have now asked for an independent editor review of the page but am concerned my changes in the sandbox aren't saving. There is no 'save changes' button, only 'review changes' and 'publish changes'. If I hit publish, will the changes only be reflected in the sandbox environment, or will they update the actual company page in Wikipedia? JessZoiti (talk) 05:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JessZoiti: For legal reasons, the "Save" button was renamed to "Publish", so that you are aware anyone can view your changes. It will just be in your sandbox, not the article RudolfRed (talk) 05:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RudolfRed thank you. I've hit publish in my Sandbox environment. Hopefully this means the independent review editor will be able to see the updates and changes – i requested they synch with my sandbox in order to review the changes. JessZoiti (talk) 05:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you've replaced the description "Singaporean liquefied natural gas exchange", which explains what the business is, by "Provider of enterprise solutions to the global commodities market", which is meaningless promotional guff. In my view that is not an improvement. Maproom (talk) 07:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And worse - before your edits, it cited six sources. Now it cites none (though it does list some). Wikipedia articles should be be bases on the sources that they cite - so that's definitely not an improvement. Maproom (talk) 08:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JessZoiti, please see Help:Referencing for beginners in order to improve the article. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 08:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for divulging that you are being paid to edit. Very likely each client hopes that its article will impress readers with its experience, skills, probity, etc. But Wikipedia is only concerned with what reliable, disinterested sources say about a demonstrably notable subject. These "big changes" you're working on -- are they perhaps intended to aggrandize the subject? As it is, your draft reads like corporate PR sludge. As a humdrum example: "GLX Digital pivoted away from The Global LNG Marketplace in July 2021, discontinuing the product", which doesn't obviously mean anything other than "GLX Digital discontinued the Global LNG Marketplace in July 2021". -- Hoary (talk) 08:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The existing GLX Digital has properly formated refs embedded in the text. Copy those as needed into your Sandbox. For new refs, use proper ref format and placement. P.S. No hyperlinks in text. David notMD (talk) 12:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You face a large problem: As a declared PAID editor, you are not supposed to edit the article directly. Instead, you are supposed to propose changes on the article's Talk page so that a non-involved editor can approve and implement, or deny. There are a few exceptions that allow for editing the article directly, such as simple facts about headquarters location, number of employees, etc. David notMD (talk) 12:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HI @David notMD thank you for your help here. I'm new to Wikipedia and am unsure of the most appropriate ways to navigate the platform - my intentions are to see the page reflect current and correct information. From this point onwards, I'll make edit suggestions on the Talk page as you recommend. Appreciate it. JessZoiti (talk) 00:58, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just want to add that that Jonathan Hager "played a crucial role," by emphasizing his significant influence and active involvement in political processes. This, I hope, will underscore his importance in the local history of Maryland and portrays him as a key figure in the region's development. Whytehallda (talk) 06:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whytehallda, thank you for trying, but in the article Jonathan Hager, you've presented as the source for this added tidbit a page that seems to have been "user-generated", and you've put the link to it in the body of the article. Neither is acceptable in a Wikipedia article. Please see Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup/1, -- Hoary (talk) 08:16, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Wiki Help, I’ve tried and failed to enter a new article because of the notability and my tone being too biographical. I didn’t know about these rules when I started. I’d like to try again but with a different subject. My niece is an actress Flora Dawson, she comes up first if you google her. If I write a short submission and cite her achievements do you think she is noteworthy enough to be published as an article on Wikipedia? Paul7384 (talk) 09:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paul7384 Hello and welcome. Please read conflict of interest first. You will want to see the definition of a notable actress to see if she meets it, and gather independent reliable sources that give her significant coverage- those should be summarized in an article, it should not merely document her achievements. 331dot (talk) 09:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Paul7384 Most of the content I see on Google is based on her IMDb entry. Wikipedia does not consider that a reliable source (see WP:IMDB). So your approach could be to take the IMDb listings only as a starting point to delve into her career and see whether theatre critics etc. have written specifically about her. Choose only high-quality newspaper journalists and avoid anything substantially based on interviews. You must use the WP:AfC process because of your conflict of interest and should declare that on the Draft's Talk Page. Good luck. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Mike, very helpful. Paul7384 (talk) 12:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all. Wondering about the photo of corpses in the Dalton Gang infobox. It's the only image on the topic available on wiki commons, which isn't surprising. My reading of the guidance is that it should probably be removed, but I'm curious about what editors with some experience with WP:OM have to say. Cheers. Robincantin (talk) 10:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Robincantin I see that you asked this back in January on the Talk Page of the article and I'm surprised you haven't had any replies there given the page had 77 watchers. My own view is that this image (from 1892) is by no means the most graphic we have on Wikipedia and would not fall into the most egregious categories where specific consensus to use them would be needed. I note that the image is widely used in multiple-language Wikipedias, so I don't think that the English version is an outlier in this case. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also see WP:NOTCENSORED. Theroadislong (talk) 12:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's in the first sentence of the guidance Robincantin has already linked to. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mike Turnbull, Theroadislong Given the topic, I suspect the en.wikipedia was the original, the other languages just followed its example. Ok, I'll leave it unless a discussion going in the other direction develops on its Talk page (looks like it won't). Robincantin (talk) 14:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robincantin, since we have individual photos of Bob Dalton, Grat Dalton and Emmett Dalton, a collage of those three could be created for the infobox, and the photo of the corpses could be moved to the Coffeeville bank robbery section. I left this suggestion on the article talk page as well. The policy language is at WP:COLLAGE. Cullen328 (talk) 17:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wikipedians,

File:Valtra N113 HT5 Forest.jpg

This image has the following text underneath:

The Wikimedia Foundation has received an e-mail confirming that the copyright holder has approved publication under the terms mentioned on this page. This correspondence has been reviewed by a Volunteer Response Team (VRT) member and stored in our permission archive. The correspondence is available to trusted volunteers as ticket #2015102610015282.

I would like to upload some good images to Wikipedia. Some I took myself and hold copyright that I can release. For other pictures, however, I would need to get the copyright holder to send the confirmation.

When copyright holder approves the publication:

1. Where do I or copyright holder sends that email?
2. Where do I send or upload the image? Benevolent Bureocrat (talk) 10:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification:

Basically, if I'd like to upload an image in the same way as the example I provided – how do I do that? :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benevolent Bureocrat (talk • contribs) 10:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Benevolent Bureocrat Commons has its own Help Desk where you can ask if you run into problems. The email address to send permission is permissions-commons@wikimedia.org See c:Commons:Email_templates for alternative ways you can get people to use the system. For your own pictures taken on your own camera, the process is much simpler. Just use the Commons:Special:UploadWizard and carefully follow the prompts. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Benevolent Bureocrat. Just going to add that if you upload your own photos to Commons, you need to make sure they are not photos of entirely of or that include too much of someone else's creative content because in many cases you will need that person's consent as well. For more on this, see WP:Derivative works, c:Commons:Licensing, c:Commons:Own work, c:Commons:2D copying, c:Commons:Derivative works, c:Commons:Freedom of panorama, c:Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter and c:Commons:De minimis. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's been a handful of changes recently using The Athletic's paid fantasy football guide (ex. Ricky Pearsall) to cite full names, birth dates, and birth places. Is this allowed? I know we can cite paid publications, but these guides feel kind of commercial and are likely not accessible in the long term (and therefore, unarchivable). Any suggestions on what to do here? --Engineerchange (talk) 12:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In line with the current sourcing policies, I don't see why this wouldn't be allowed. Editors can cite rare books that very few editors will ever be able to read in order to verify the claims made, so as long as the author is reliable, The Athletic's guide would be a usable resource. In terms of "unarchivable": is there precedent of previous years' draft guides being deleted? That would be my main concern here. Reconrabbit 14:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the nature of fantasy football journalism (vs. sports journalism) is it is and can be transient and inconsistent, so I would imagine the url of these things can and do change as years go by, but such is the nature of the Internet. Appreciate your input; I think I'll let this go; my concern was if this file is used to cite the birth dates for dozens of articles and is gone in a year, we are stuck back at square one in a couple years time! --Engineerchange (talk) 15:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a concern for sure, but even now there are plenty of printed books that can be bought for the past few decades of NFL drafts still out there, and The Athletic still hosts news articles regarding fantasy football from 2018 that pop up on Google. Reconrabbit 15:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following guidance seems contradictory.

MOS:ELLIPSES:

But where an ellipsis is immediately followed by any of . ? ! : ; , ) ] } or by a closing quotation mark (single or double), use a non-breaking space before the ellipsis, and no space after it: Jones wrote: "These stories amaze me. The facts suffer so frightfully ..."

MOS:LQ:

If the quotation is a single word or a sentence fragment, place the terminal punctuation outside the closing quotation mark. When quoting a full sentence, the end of which coincides with the end of the sentence containing it, place terminal punctuation inside the closing quotation mark.

• Miller wanted, he said, "to create something timeless".
• Miller said: "I wanted to create something timeless."

My guess is that MOS:ELLIPSES is not as clear as it could be. For example, perhaps it should be edited like this (or similar):

But where an ellipsis is immediately followed by any of . ? ! : ; , ) ] } or by a closing quotation mark (single or double), use a non-breaking space before the ellipsis, and no space after it: Jones wrote: "These stories amaze me. The facts suffer so frightfully ...".(Note that the period ending the sentence should be placed outside the quotation mark; see MOS:LQ.)

Or am I totally misunderstanding?

Thanks! – Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 14:06, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Markworthen My interpretation is that an ellipsis is the set of (usually) three dots that indicates something is missing: in this case from a quote. That being so, it would be confusing to place another punctuation dot immediately after the ellipsis but it does need a non-breaking space before it. Another way to think of this is that any quotation ending in an ellipsis must indeed be a fragment, so the advice at MOS:LQ is good: put the quotation mark before the final punctuation. Your suggestion to alter the guidance could lead to extra clarity, so if no-one else here at the Teahouse has a different idea, you could be bold and add that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent - thank you! Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 16:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am having issues with my IP when editing. How do I go through this huddle? Caleb Ndu (talk) 16:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Caleb Ndu: Welcome to the Teahouse! What issues are you having? If you're not able to edit at all, see Wikipedia:IP block exemption. If you're having a different issue, please provide more details. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GoingBatty My account was created by a user due to the fact I couldn't create it on my own which was then because my IP address was abused previously. I'm just concerned about future problems here on Wikipedia. Thank you for trying to help me but I need more directions. Caleb Ndu (talk) 17:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Caleb Ndu! As long as you're logged into your account, the editing status of your IP shouldn't matter and you should be good to go! What other directions are you looking for? Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 17:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Perfect4thI am happy to receive clarifications. Now, my nerves are calm. I need a mentor here. How do I apply for? Caleb Ndu (talk) 17:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caleb Ndu, there are various ways you can get mentorship or help on Wikipedia. It looks like your automatically assigned mentor is Alextejthompson – you can ask your mentor questions on their talk page here. You can also continue to ask questions here at the Teahouse. Did you have a specific question you wanted an answer for? Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 17:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Perfect4th Thanks for this direction, I have written @Alextejthompson on his talk page and I wait response from him under 24 hours from this moment. I want to see if he's interested, else I move on with another editor. I love the way you reply me. Caleb Ndu (talk) 18:01, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I am a newbie but want to submit a draft through articles for creation. Do I go straight there, or is it best to ask someone here to review my draft? Any help would be MUCH appreciated :) Becca33 (talk) 17:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Becca33Where's the article draft namespace? I wish to contribute to it's improvement. Caleb Ndu (talk) 18:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Use WP:YFA as a path to creating a draft. Be sure that you understand the essential need for references, and how to format references. AfC then allows you to submit your draft. There is a backlog. The system is not a queue, meaning that any draft may be reviewed in days, weeks, or sadly, months. All that said, general advice is to gain experience editing existing articles before attempting to create a new article. P.S. Teahouse hosts are here to advise, but do not wear a second hat as reviewers. David notMD (talk) 18:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caleb Ndu While wanting to help other editors is admirable, given that you have had your account for less than two weeks, I suggest refraining from offering to co-author drafts by other editors. David notMD (talk) 19:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@David notMD That's not an issue. I wish to be directed to where I could be more friendly. I wish to interact with other editors as much as I can. I didn't join 2 weeks ago. I joined 2 months ago. Caleb Ndu (talk) 19:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Becca33, and welcome to the Teahouse. I echo David's advice: every day we see dozens of drafts written by eager new editors before they have spent time learning how Wikipedia works. Hardly any of them are acceptable as they stand, and many are never going to be acceptable, because the creators have not begun by determining whether or not the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Naturally, the enthusiastic creators get disappointed (at the very least) that their efforts appear not to be appreciated.

I see that you are a Marketing professional: to be honest, you may find that more of a hindrance than a help, because often the ways of writing which are entirely appropriate in your work are entirely inappropriate in Wikipedia. So, as David says: go slowly, and make sure you understand fundmental concepts such as verifiability, reliable sources, independent sources and neutral point of view before you venture to follow the advice in your first article.

And I'd address most of that to @Caleb Ndu as well. ColinFine (talk) 19:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do I create biography pages that are not deleted? That is what i want to specialize as a writer Edu.Report (talk) 18:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edu.Report, the quality of the reliable sources that you cite is all-important. If you neutrally summarize high quality, independent sources that devote significant coverage to the person, you will be well on your way to success. Cullen328 (talk) 18:17, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks that is a great advice. Edu.Report (talk) 18:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BACKWARDS may have something helpful. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is what I was trying to do, I started a draft and then I was deleted. I could not even edited. How can I work on the article before it is deleted? Edu.Report (talk) 18:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You could work in your Personal sandbox. Qcne (talk) 19:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not being an Administrator, I cannot see the draft that was Speedy deleted, but as explained on your Talk page, it was considered too promotional. I recommend you look at existing biographies to get an idea of how content is presented to be neutral versus promotional. Biographies, especially, must have content verified by references. David notMD (talk) 19:06, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Edu Report. If you make sure you ignore absolutely everything said, written, or published, by the subject or their associates, and write summarizing only what independent commentators have published about the subject, your work will be less likely to be regarded as promotional. ColinFine (talk) 19:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Edu.Report: You can request a copy of the deleted page be put in your sandbox, so you can improve it, by asking at WP:REFUND. Please note that pages deleted as a copyright violation will be restored. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you meant "will not be restored". ColinFine (talk) 21:06, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have difficulties sometimes properly setting up the automatic archive feature on some pages. I attempted just now to setup a automatic archive for the talk page at Atlas Network, but I cannot be positive that it was setup correctly. Could one of you please help me in checking just to ensure that that was created correctly and that it should then begin auto-archiving in 14 days as currently configured? Iljhgtn (talk) 18:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Iljhgtn since there are not a lot of threads on that page, it might be better to manually archive them with a tool like WP:1CA, which will move an individual thread to an archive. 14 days seems awfully short for the number of threads there are. – Isochrone (talk) 19:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. How do I change the time. I think 30 days might be best. I just do not know how to set that up. If you could help me that would be really nice. Iljhgtn (talk) 19:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Iljhgtn: Paste this at the top of the talk page:

{{User:MiszaBot/config
|archiveheader       = {{talkarchivenav}}
|maxarchivesize      = 75K
|counter             = 1
|minthreadsleft      = 4
|minthreadstoarchive = 1
|algo                = old(28d)
|archive             = {{SAFESUBST:FULLPAGENAME}}/Archive %(counter)d
}}
{{archives|search=yes}}

Change old(28d) (28 days) to a more suitable number if you wish. Adjust |counter = 1 to account for any existing archive pages. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added a lowercasesigmabot that would appear to be working. If you want to check my work, it looks like it already archived some content and left some still yet to be archived. Talk:Atlas Network. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am intoxicated by use of User box to explain my user page and I don't know exactly how to create them. I mean, custom User box. Somebody help me please comprehensively. Caleb Ndu (talk) 19:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again Caleb Ndu. Does WP:User boxes help? (General hint: if you want to know about something in using or editing Wikipedia, it's usually worth trying to search for the term with WP: on the front). ColinFine (talk) 21:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Caleb Ndu: Often the easiest way to create a custom user box is to find on another user's page one whose general appearance you like, copy the code from that user page, and paste it on your page, replacing the text and image with what you want. That's what I did for the top box on my user page. Deor (talk) 22:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Applying this now is my problem. I'm still new here. Caleb Ndu (talk) 22:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You could use the template {{userbox}} (click on that for more instructions). For instance,

{{Userbox |border-c=black |#CCEEFF |white | How? |info-a=center |How do I make my own userboxes?}}

creates

How?	How do I make my own userboxes?

-- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 12:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not happy by the treatment of this website, I am sick and tired of abusive moderators destroying contributions and violating pages. I want a formal complaint against Pmffl Poppodoms (talk) 20:16, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to relate to the recent history of ArkWeb, which is now a redirect. Please follow the process at WP:DR. See also WP:AGF. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:25, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may also want to ping someone when you are doing this so they are not taken by surprise. @Pmffl Iljhgtn (talk) 20:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want information, I want direct link to get this page rolled back Poppodoms (talk) 20:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Poppodoms. I have not looked at the issue, and I have no idea whether I would support your position or not. But Wikipedia is a collaborative project. If you take the position of "I'm right and they're wrong" you are not likely to be happy here, and you may find yourself blocked.

Incidentally, we don't have "moderators". Pmffl is another editor, like you and me.

Please look at the pages Andy pointed you to. ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia contributor is abusing his power on it, this is not "I'm right and they're wrong" situation. It is simply abuse. Poppodoms (talk) 21:17, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:ArkWeb has the context. 2 items of note here: there is currently only one English reference for this topic, and Poppodoms is trying to unilaterally control this article, even to the point of blanking it in protest. I admit I was too hasty in some of my edits earlier today, but I stand by the redirect, as explained on the talk page. -Pmffl (talk) 21:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I stand by the reverse redirect. Pmffl admitted that it was a browser engine on the Talk:ArkWeb - Wikipedia Poppodoms (talk) 21:15, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I did admit it, but that doesn't change the lack of valid English refs for this topic. Hence the redirect. I want to emphasize again, this is nothing personal for me. I realize you created this article and may feel some "ownership" of it, but that's not how wikipedia is supposed to work. (But I get it; it can be hard not to feel that way about work done here.) -Pmffl (talk) 21:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel ownership to anything here, I only contribute with the citations, I feel that you are not doing your job as a contributor, in looking at things objectively, and allowing it to naturally grow. You come behind and feel entitled to act like a moderator like it's "suspicious", when you are mere contributor like myself. Poppodoms (talk) 21:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This should really be taking place on the relevant talk page and not here on the Teahouse I think. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i understand. I apologise. It's resolved between two parties. Thank you very much, I appreciate it. Poppodoms (talk) 21:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am speaking as an administrator here and have no opinion on whether or not ArkWeb is notable. But I do want to advise both Poppodoms and Pmffl that your behavior regarding this matter is poor. Poppodoms, you came here with an inappropriate hot and heavy attitude. Your comment abusive moderators destroying contributions and violating pages is overly aggressive and indicates a deep misunderstanding of how Wikipedia actually works. Contributions cannot be "destroyed" because they always remain in an article's edit history. The term "moderator" is not normally used on Wikipedia, and even if if you mean "administrator" instead, Pmffl is not an administrator. Pmffl, here and elsewhere, you have repeatedly stated that English language sources are required to establish the notability of a topic. This is false. It is perfectly OK to provide references to reliable sources in languages other than English on the English Wikipedia. If reliable sources are plentiful, then English language sources are preferable. For example, there is no need to add Italian language sources to Abraham Lincoln because the English language coverage is massive. But if English language coverage is limited, then references to coverage in other languages is just fine. Both of you, do not discuss concepts or refer to policies that do not exist here. Base your statements only on actual policies, guidelines and behavioral norms here on English Wikipedia. This is a collaborative project and hurling unfounded accusations and assertions is not the way to operate. Cullen328 (talk) 02:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I just started using Twinkle and I don't understand what an AGF Rollback is. Could someone explain?

Also, when should I use Rollback and when should I use the "Vandalism" button when comparing edits? For now, I use "Rollback" for "test edits" and "Vandalism" for vandalism. Is this how I should use it?

Thanks. Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 20:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AGF stands for "Assume Good Faith". Rollback is a feature that lets you revert a whole series of edits in one click. Which is why it needs to be used with great care and caution. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Thanks! Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 20:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After a few weeks of waiting, I'm not sure why the article alerts template for WikiProject Apps isn't working. I've assessed a considerable amount of pages with the project tag, and the bot seems to be updating the page. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 21:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, may I change the display title of an article (OutTV to OUTtv), supply references to a number of sources validating the updated stylization of the name (almost all the existing citations on the page where the title resides), remove the phrase: "OutTV (stylized OUTtv)", as well as then update the article text to reflect the new title case? I have a displayed coi with the article and would also mention coi in the edit summary. The article currently exists with both styles used in the text. Or would this be better addressed via an edit:COI request? Thank you. Oshentree (talk) 23:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Oshentree. Thank you for your transparency. I think it would be better as an edit request. ColinFine (talk) 09:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All right, thanks for your response ColinFine. No problem, will do. Oshentree (talk) 16:49, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

my father has a wiki page and in the spouse column it says married with children, he wants me to edit that and put in the name of my mother and siblings, but wikipidea does not allow edits to the pages of people you are related to, what can i do to resolve this.

Tpiusukeyima (talk) 23:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tpiusukeyima. Wikipedia is quite strict about what it does and doesn't allow in Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (please read that project page). Generally, spouses and children are only named if they are notable (i.e. qualified for their own Wikipedia article) in their own right or are very relevant to matters discussed in the article.

Usually, for example, names of non-adult children are not listed just because they exist: this is to maintain their privacy and protection — criminals, kidnappers and scammers can read Wikipedia as easily as anyone else.

We have some advice at Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. What applies to the subject of an article applies also to non-notable relatives of the subject. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.134.31 (talk) 00:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have often seen spouse named and number of children, but not names. Typically in a Personal life section, along with where currently living. That info requires a ref. David notMD (talk) 05:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

how can i get in contact with young and restless star mark grossman

2601:846:780:FA0:5555:4068:B5D6:4680 (talk) 23:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse. This, unfortunately, is beyond the scope of Wikipedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a link to contact information within his entry in the IMDb, here. It appears you have to sign up to IMDbPro to access it, but there seems to be a free-trial option. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.134.31 (talk) 00:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a very popular story, and is high ranking on Amazon. I feel it deserves an article completely. Can you help me out please? Jasonsepice234 (talk) 23:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jasonsepice234: Welcome to the Teahouse. For one thing, you have no inline citations, which are required for a Wikipedia article. Please don't add external links in the body of the article. Also, be aware that sites like Fandom are supplied with user-generated content, which undermines any reliability it would have had. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Deplorable Instinct has an overly long Synopsis and no useful references, thus Declined. Teahouse hosts advise, but are not co-authors. David notMD (talk) 05:15, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A read of notability criteria for books should give you a good impression of what the AfC reviewers are looking for. I'd note that user generated content like fandom is considered pretty much useless as a source, as is book sellers like amazon. the press release may prove useful as a source but will not count towards notability.

One idea might be to wait until there is significant coverage in reliable independent sources, before resubmitting the draft. And in the meantime whittle down that synopsis to a couple of paragraphs. -- D'n'B-t -- 06:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jasonsepice234: I'll add that the "Literary significance" section seems to be your own editorial commentary, violating Wikipedia:No original research. Except for the synopsis, all statements must be cited to reliable sources that are independent of the article topic. If you cannot do that, then the topic cannot have a Wikipedia article. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I recently created this page: K. S. Radhakrishnan. However, it has not yet been reviewed by any editors. How do I request someone to review?

I have created articles in the past. They all got reviewed within a day or two. I didn't have to request for review or anything like that. Devan.varun (talk) 00:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Devan.varun, typically we don't really like requests for reviews. The backlog is currently and has been quite long so it might take a while. You do not have to request a review, it will be done sooner or later. Justiyaya 02:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Devan.varun You created the article straight into mainspace, as you are entitled to do. All new articles are eventually reviewed by the new pages patrol and won't be indexed by search engines until that happens, or 90 days have elapsed. The alternative process you could have used is to create a draft and submit it for review in a process described at WP:AfC. If you had done that, then when accepted the draft would have been marked as "reviewed" and it would have been open for search engines to index. Unfortunately, the new pages patrol has an even greater backlog (>14,000) than the AfC one, so indexing may take some time. Note that editors experienced with creating articles can request that they become WP:Autopatrolled, which would mean that their future submissions would be indexed as soon as placed in mainspace. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Devan.varun Do you have a particular need for a speedy NPP review? 331dot (talk) 10:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. How can I explain to a new editor that competence in English is required in a polite manner? Thanks. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 01:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If someone has just started editing and then {{Welcome-foreign|lang=}} has some polite-but-firm text. If you think you can reasonably guess what their first language is, then the template also provides translations of the same welcome text (see docs). -- D'n'B-t -- 06:55, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Thank you! '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 06:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, CanonNi. First, be aware that WP:COMPETENCE is an essay and therefore does not have the force of an official policy or guideline. That being said, I think the underlying concept that "competence is required" is widely accepted. This sentence is useful to think about: Rather than labeling them as "incompetent" in the pejorative sense, we should ease them out of the Wikipedia community as graciously as possible, with their dignity intact. The specifics of the lack of competence need to be considered. People who do not speak English well often perceive the English Wikipedia as more influential or as the "master Wikipedia". These editors should be gently encouraged to edit the Wikipedia language version in the languages they speak fluently. Other editors are so firmly dedicated to their ideology or religion or other strongly held point of view that they have difficulty writing policy compliant content. We need to politely explain that writing from the Neutral point of view is a core content policy that is mandatory. Sometimes an editor simply will not accept the constructive feedback and persists with disruptive editing. In such cases, you need to provide convincing evidence to administrators, who can decide on the most appropriate restriction for the good of the encyclopedia. That may include page blocks, topic bans or sitewide blocks. Cullen328 (talk) 07:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. The editor seems to have understood. Thank you for this detailed answer! '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 07:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know this is going to be a stupid question but, what is Jargon? I have heard someone said "Don't use Jargon." What is Jargon? Can someone please explain to me? Thanks! 2600:8804:8A81:FA00:C486:85E4:D18E:1F1 (talk) 02:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We actually have an article on Jargon. CLick on that link and have a read, and come back here if you still have questions. HiLo48 (talk) 02:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP! For a list of jargon on Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Glossary. We usually try not to use jargon while communicating to newer users as to not cause confusion. Justiyaya 02:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On WP, jargon would be something like "You have a COI regarding that BLP." Insider language. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for explanation. I had thought that Jargon was a Klingon dialect. David notMD (talk) 14:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TaH pagh taHbe. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me with https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gaw54. I accidentally drafted the page on wikimedia rather than wikipedia. How can I most efficiently transfer the draft to finish it in the right format? It has been a while since I've created pages here and am getting very lost in the weeds. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Gaw54 (talk) 03:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately there isn't a way to move a page from Commons to Wikipedia. I'd suggest just copy-pasting the page and fix any formatting issues, which should be simple. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 03:35, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gaw54 Just to support the idea of copy/pasting your draft, but to say that it should not be added into youe user page. That's for you to say a few words about yourself and your own editing interests. Instead, you should either work on it at Draft:Bonnie Rychlak, or at User:Gaw54/sandbox. Then pop back here when you're read and we'll help you submit it for review at 'Articles for Creation'. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What Nick Moyes says, but with the minor correction that it wouldn't be "Drafts:Bonnie Rychlak" (plural) but instead Draft:Bonnie Rychlak (singular). -- Hoary (talk) 11:58, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've fixed the typo 'Draft' not 'Drafts' DOH! Nick Moyes (talk) 20:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is the submitted content examined for accuracy? 103.187.245.60 (talk) 08:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Be aware that Wikipedia does not guarantee accuracy, see the Wikipedia:General disclaimer. That said, readers and other editors are relied on to check sources and determine if they are accurately summarized in the article. If you see content that you believe does not accurately summarize the sources provided, you should discuss that on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 08:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More at Reliability of Wikipedia. In general, errors can linger, more likely in areas with few interested editors. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I just edited Self-portrait (Giorgione) to add a citation link to the website of the museum where the painting is currently on display. The page now has just this one citation. Is this enough to remove the template message? or should I leave it there for now until further links are added? Thanks... SwollenSails (talk) 09:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! The template can be switched to {{more citations}} as there's at least one source now. If you could find a source to verify the other contents of the article, that'd be great. Otherwise the information not cited by the reference can be removed. Thank you for your efforts! NotAGenious (talk) 09:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks. So the convention is that I switch the template after adding the first link? If so then all good, I get it. Is there anywhere that explains template-switching in newbie terms? SwollenSails (talk) 10:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SwollenSails Weeeell... Can't think of any at the top of my head. Help:A quick guide to templates and Wikipedia:Template index/Cleanup may be of some help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone at least explain this sentence — “The template can be switched to {{more citations}} as there's at least one source now” — to me? How do I undertake this specific task in future, if I want to just do it myself? Thanks. SwollenSails (talk) 12:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SwollenSails New editors tend to use the visual editor as it is the easiest for simple text changes. Templates like the ones under discussion are much easier to swap using the source editor. There are tutorials for both at Help:Introduction. If you "edit source" on Self-portrait (Giorgione) you will see various templates at the top, under the one that provides the short description. Currently they are {{refimprove|date=April 2024}} and {{notability|date=April 2024}}. It was the former one that used to be {{more citations}} until Gråbergs Gråa Sång changed it and also added the second one. When changing templates like these, make sure you "Preview" before saving/publishing, to check that the new template does what you think it does. Incidentally, you don't need to add the date to the template if you don't want to: a bot will come along very quickly to do that if you omit it: see the edit history of the article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou! That’s exactly what I needed. SwollenSails (talk) 13:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SwollenSails I changed the template, since the one in place was now wrong. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok great, thanks SwollenSails (talk) 10:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello everyone, a file Xiao Yan.jpg was deleted by User:EugeneZelenko with no actual reason, and the file clearly didn't violate any rules. I'm guessing maybe he deleted it by mistake, but if not i suppose he should have given a deletion reason?
Thisasia  ^(Talk) 14:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See c:User talk:Thisasia: user has problem with understanding c:Commons:Licensing and was notified about this and other files. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. But just to confirm, the c:Commons:Licensing indicates that YouTube items under the creative common licence are free to reuse or isn't?
Thisasia  ^(Talk) 15:50, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube vids can be marked with a Commons acceptable license, like this one:[1]. Most aren't. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång Thanks for your response, but please what's the easy way to distinguish between the YouTube video common licence and none common licence?
Thisasia  ^(Talk) 16:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at that video, there's a "more" you can click to expand. It lists the licensing. If that's not there, you can't add it to Wikimedia Commons. Valereee (talk) 16:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oww got it, Thanks for your reply.
Thisasia  ^(Talk) 16:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I edited the page on spirulina to include a link to a recent study. Editor Julius Senegal removed the edit, and when I asked him why he gave a bullshit answer. His honest answer would be that he's a shill for Big Pharma. What can I do? And why is Wikipedia becoming anti-science?

Spirulina

User talk:Julius Senegal#Why did you remove my edit of the spirulina page? 2600:1700:B2C0:5E10:D4BA:B511:43FF:4786 (talk) 15:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't a "bullshit answer". The removal was done because your source does not comply with WP:MEDRS. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP editor, I would suggest you refrain from making personal attacks and strike out your baseless accusations. @Julius Senegal gave you the relevant guideline and was correct to remove your addition. Qcne (talk) 15:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look at Julius' post. It's **NOTHING BUT** personal attacks. Again, his answer was bullshit. You are all showing that the once great Wikipedia has been ruined and is no longer a reliable source of information. 2600:1700:B2C0:5E10:D4BA:B511:43FF:4786 (talk) 23:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:NPA. It is not OK to make a personal attack like that on another editor. You need to withdraw it, please. DBaK (talk) 15:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His original post was **NOTHING BUT** personal attacks (along with a racist attack on the people of an entire region of the planet). I will not withdraw it. And I have taken screen shots to preserve all of this. 2600:1700:B2C0:5E10:D4BA:B511:43FF:4786 (talk) 23:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP, our rules for medical articles only allow the best sources, so it's not a matter of 'not fitting the narrative'. It's a matter of 'this source isn't considered high-enough quality'. You can find more at the WP:MEDRS link. Valereee (talk) 16:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there nobody at Wikipedia who can be honest? You have all ruined a once-great source of knowledge and turned it into a pile of shit. 2600:1700:B2C0:5E10:D4BA:B511:43FF:4786 (talk) 23:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What should I do so that the User page: timbaraliris is modified and improved continuously. This man deals with science and education. His data and his online publications will be added value for the Wikipedia site. TimBaraliris (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, @TimBaraliris. So, that's not what we do here. We create and maintain articles on subjects, including people, who are notable per Wikipedia standards, which you can read about at WP:Notability (people). If you're Tim Baraliris, you might also want to read WP:AUTOBIO and its links. Valereee (talk) 19:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, TimBaraliris. You should also read WP:UP to discover what kind of thing is acceptable on a user page. ColinFine (talk) 20:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hey guys - does anyone remember the videos called strawberry shortcake sets the school on fire and charlie brown gets a gold card? they've become lost media and i'm trying to hunt them down at this point 2A02:8084:EA4:2B80:9982:222D:A1B5:AD5 (talk) 21:46, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Wikipedia page that lists the various mayors of the City of Richmond, CA. There are photos of some of the mayors along with the dates of their service. My father was one such mayor but he does not have a photo next to his name. If I provide the photo can someone insert it in the appropriate space?

The page I would like to the picture to is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Richmond,_California Tahomadude (talk) 22:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]