Colonel William A. Phillips

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  • curprev 18:3018:30, 7 December 2023‎ GordonGlottal talk contribs‎ 108,429 bytes −80‎ Undid revision 1188780382 by Ideophagous (talk) Read the sources. Words shift between places, times, cultures; are not bound to your purity ideal. "Abu" here was abstracted into a marker (linguistics) indicating the kunya form. Context says that Abu Yusuf Yaqub is "Jacob father of Joseph", Abu Imran Musa is "Moses son of Amram", Abu Harun Musa is "Moses brother of Aaron", Abu Al-Afiya Musa is "Moses the Healthy". Tag: Undo
  • curprev 17:1617:16, 7 December 2023‎ Ideophagous talk contribs‎ 108,509 bytes +80‎ →‎Name: corrected the footnote and the text. "Abu" does not only "generally" mean "father". "Abu" only means father and nothing else family related (it could also mean "owner of"). The usage is just a biblical reference, and is not intended to be understood as "son", nor is it ever understood as such. If you're still not satisfied, please open a discussion, so we can a better formulation Tag: Reverted
  • curprev 05:0205:02, 7 December 2023‎ GordonGlottal talk contribs‎ 108,429 bytes −45‎ →‎Name: ce Tag: Visual edit
  • curprev 05:0005:00, 7 December 2023‎ GordonGlottal talk contribs‎ 108,474 bytes +176‎ →‎Name: Trying to make the note a little more explicit. Tag: Visual edit
  • curprev 04:4804:48, 7 December 2023‎ GordonGlottal talk contribs‎ 108,298 bytes −6‎ Undid revision 1188670977 by Ideophagous (talk) There is not any confusion, this is a pattern which extends to everyone named Moses and to other names. The word abu generally means "father" but in the context of a kunya it's more flexible. To quote the cited source, "Abu has entirely lost its original signification of father" in these cases. Some humility please -- a bit of modern Arabic is not enough to translate medieval sources. Tag: Undo

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  • curprev 22:4822:48, 6 December 2023‎ Ideophagous talk contribs‎ 108,304 bytes +6‎ Undid revision 1188657116 by GordonGlottal (talk) You're missing the point: the statement """the Arabic nickname "abu Imran", which translates to "son of Amram""" is very much incorrect because the Arabic word "abu" أبو means "father" not "son". The sentence may need to be rephrased or such (e.g. maybe there was confusion between father and son in the sources)), but as it is now, it's semantically incorrect (abu = father # son Tags: Undo Reverted
  • curprev 21:0221:02, 6 December 2023‎ GordonGlottal talk contribs‎ 108,298 bytes −6‎ Undid revision 1188025535 by Ideophagous (talk) Not true in this case, please see Kunya (Arabic). Maimonides did not have a son named Amram, it's a nickname for ppl named Moses which references Biblical Moses' genealogy. Biblical Moses was the son of Biblical Amram. Tags: Undo Reverted
  • curprev 15:4315:43, 6 December 2023‎ UrielAcosta talk contribs‎ 108,304 bytes −108‎ →‎Influence and legacy: Removed a portrait- personally I like it as art, but since it is not historical & there is no indication that the artwork or the artist are notable (in Wikipedia's sense of the term), it is not encyclopedic. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit

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