Colonel William A. Phillips

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NO TO PREEMPTIVE TITLE CHANGE.

A definite and strong objection to the title change is made. Given the fact that the change was apparently executed without adequate prior notice, e.g., without a sufficient request for prior discussion or input from prior contributors, the title change to the article appears to be a drastic step. A more moderate and accomodating approach would acknowledge at least pro forma the pre-existing merits of the status quo ante, and seek to come to some prior understanding of purpose and intent before taking such a step.

Also there now exists the suggestion to merge the French-era article with another article of a name nearly identical to the "new title" so executed (F p of T and F P of T). The addition of this double nature makes the title change more problematic. Of course, it also makes the title change very confusing. The long-term pre-existing title of History of French era Tunisia is clearly better in this regard.

Thus, the title change as executed should be reversed. Elfelix (talk) 05:37, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I copied this over from the Discussion at the challenged article History of French era Tunisia. Elfelix (talk) 13:46, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NO TO SUGGESTED MERGER.

The article French Protectorate of Tunisia has a different perspective. This article has been written within the last several months and, although only quickly appraised for this discussion here, it appears to be well done. But it takes a different look at Tunisia than that employed, and to be employed, in the French era Tunisia article. Hence, both articles should exist side by side, each to complement the other handsomely. Numerous interior linkages and a "See also" reference should be made. Perhaps also, a "Main Article" flag might be inserted someplace in the French-era Tunisia article, pointing the reader to the French Protectorate of Tunisia article.

Please note: much preparatory work and research for filling out outline of the History of French-era Tunisia has been made, underway for some months. It will begin to be presented in November. Until that time, any such merger will be preemptive, over-reaching, and premature.

As is well known, across the board in Wikipedia with regard to a particular historical subject, there exists several articles which present different views of more or less similar topics. Here as well. Perhaps in the distant future, maybe a little as ten or twenty years down the road, there will naturally emerge a marriage of heterogeneous articles about similar topics. On the other hand, many mature editors may come to realize that in many cases forcing a merger will work only a detrimental result to the merits inherent to different articles on similar topics. Instead, thorough and adequat cross-referencing may prove to be the better solution than an artificial merger. Such decisions will likely be made on a case by case basis. Yet to try to snuff out an neighboring article in midst of demonstrated planning, off-site drafts, and research, is premature.

Such efforts in embryo should be given adequate time to grow, especially when of two articles each expresses a legitimate yet different point of view, of such a depth and subtlety that to merge the two them would be reductionist. A merger would diminish the ability of the reader to view for herself the historical phenomena from multiple perspectives. Merely the fact that the writing of a late-starting article has momentarilly overtaken in length that of an earlier-started one, does not give license for a article "merger". Wikipedia was meant, as I understand it, to look to the long term benefit of everyone and every acceptable view. One of the great benefits of Wikipedia is its rich, textual diversity.

The History of French-era Tunisia is part of a multi-article series on the History of Tunisia. For the period in question it will reference the antecedents. The newer article entitled the French Protectorate of Tunisia is a most welcome addition. It provides an independent and a different (no doubt at points divergent) perspective on the French period in Tunisia. The Wikipedia reader will be enriched and rewarded by having the parallax views available! Wikipedia is a celebration of divergent interests. To attempt a forced harmonization of competing views by some kind of potentially bloody merger, before they at least each enjoy the opportunity to naturally develope, is not advisable.

To such a merger: a definite no! Elfelix (talk) 05:37, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I copied this over from the Discussion at the challenged article History of French era Tunisia. Elfelix (talk) 13:46, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

REQUEST FOR INFO Could someone more knowledgeable insert info on the 'April 9th 1938 events' also known as the National Martyrs’ Day? I understand this was a nationalist demonstration against French rule, still commemorated.--Martin852 (talk) 14:42, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For anyone interested, there is a discussion regarding merging History of Punic-era Tunisia: chronology and History of Punic-era Tunisia: culture into History of Carthage being held at Talk:History of Carthage#Merge. There is a new suggestion that material from those articles could be merged into History of Tunisia. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:09, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]