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I tried my hand at adding some useful content here. Now I need to find a way to spell check properly.

Be advised that I still have some work to do. --Tbmorgan74 22:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly. The thing about Lit. Circles is that teachers might want to access and get ideas on how to organise them in the classroom. Would they be able to locate "Lit. Circles" if it is incorporated into Book Clubs (I'm new to wikis and don't know these things.)

I think some sort of link would be apt but other links with education, reading, collaborative learning, and maybe others will be necessary.

There are various books published on the organisation of Lit Circles, which might be listed in Wikipedia. Adults are able to organise their own but children need support structures in place to develop the skills of discussion and analysis. --Leighnewton 08:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That whole last section on "book club" as a euphemism for a college drinking game seems at least dubious, and certainly out of place. I've added a fact tag, but I think it probably makes more sense to delete it altogether. Anson2995 16:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it's been almost two months, and since there have been no efforts to offer citations, or even to argue that it should remain, I'm deleting the section. Anson2995 19:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think Wikipedia users would be better served by a disambiguation page for "Book club" that points to separate articles for "Book discussion club", "Book sales club", and "Literary Cirlces" since each of these are very different subjects that often use the same name. What do you think? Bryan H Bell 19:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Good idea. Anson2995 13:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a few days and I see no dissent for creating a disambiguation page, so I'm going to go ahead and do it today or within the next few days. I've checked through all the articles listed on this article's What links here page. I judge that 53 of the linked articles refer to a book discussion club while 26 refer to a book sales club. Book discussion club seems to be the dominant meaning, but the number of references to a book sales club is not insignificant. I'm going to set the disambiguation page to "Book club", move this article to one named "Book discussion club", and split the book sales club section here into its own article named "Book sales club".Bryan H Bell 22:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Editors of the book discussion club page,

I would like to request a link be added to my website and was told this is the correct process for doing so.

The site is: [1].

My site is specific to learning about book clubs. It includes: a guide to get a book club started, an entertainment section for book club meeting ideas (menus, themes, favors, movie combos), book reviews (by me and my mom the owners of the site, and our visitors who contribute), blog page for an online book of the month club, a kids corner discussing children's book clubs and books, facts and "how to's" for keeping a successful book club running.

I think the site provides valuable information for anyone interested in finding out more about book groups. Please let me know if you are able to do this!

Thanks in advance for your time!

Queenie D (talk) 21:45, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've reviewed Queenie D's site and it seems to me to be on-topic and quite rich in useful content. It seems like a good resource for the External links section.

That said, this article's External links section does seem to be getting too lengthy and is in need of some thoughful pruning. I fully expect the What-Wikipedia-Is-Not police to swoop in any time now and start deleting links, and they'd probably be correct. I vote for including Queenie D's site, but also removing some other links, particularly those which are mere examples of actual book discussion clubs, such as "Guelph Public Library Book Buzz". Bryan H Bell (talk) 23:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since there's been no objection, I've added a link to the Book Club Queen site. In an effort to trim down the External links section, I also removed some links according to the criteria I listed in my previous comment. Bryan H Bell (talk) 21:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IP user 172.216.121.174 has twice removed this External link claiming in their edit summaries that it is a commercial site and therefore spam. First, I can't see any evidence that the site exists for any commercial purpose. It appears to me to be largely an informational site, offering articles on how to start and maintain book discussion clubs. Second, there is no across-the-board prohibition of links to "commercial sites" on Wikipedia. Wikipedia does discourage external links to "sites that primarily exist to sell products or services" (see item 5 on Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided), but as I stated above, I don't think this site falls into that category. --Bryan H Bell (talk) 21:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I notice the IP user has once again removed the external link, but hasn't yet posted a rebuttal here. The edit summary for their latest revert has suggested that I review the site in question before restoring the link. I feel that I did, in fact, provide a review of the site above. However, I decided to revisit the site in case it had changed and the IP user's claim was true. I still can find no evidence that the site is selling products or services. I have asked the IP user on their user talk page to point me to the areas of the site that lead them to believe it is primarily a "commercial site". Hopefully they will respond here with some evidence to assist us.

Since I don't wish to perpetuate an edit war between myself and this user and also because I have reached my three-revert rule limit for today with this issue, I'm going to leave the user's change in place for now. Hopefully, other editors will weigh in here with their opinions, but if nobody does (I imagine this article gets fairly low amounts of traffic), then after a while I'll restore the link. --Bryan H Bell (talk) 01:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

QUEENIE D - CREATOR OF SITE THAT IS UNDER QUESTION

I'm responding here to help clear up any confusion about my site. Just as Bryan pointed out above, the site does not exist to "sell products or services." We have 150 pages of informational content about different types of book clubs as well as a library of book reviews for current books. I hope this issue can be resolved as I fully believe our site offers invaluable information for those people researching book clubs and reading groups. As we continue to grow, we plan to provide more information and many more book reviews to add value to the visitors stay.

I'd also like to add that several of the external links have the same format for their book club sites. They offer a monthly newsletter which allows visitors to enter an email and receive a newsletter IF THEY SO CHOOSE. They also incorporate book review and book club advertisements in their pages. Specifically take a look at "The Reading Group" link as it is very similar in format. If my site is going to be edited out then it's only democratic that ALL external links are re-evaluated. I've looked at all the external links and my site is comparable with the ones that have not been edited. I think this directly responds to user 172.216.121.174's editing comments. Thank you Bryan for continuing to work through this issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.153.14 (talk) 05:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a few days and there's been no response here opposing the link, so I'm restoring it. --Bryan H Bell (talk) 22:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like this article is painfully lacking any history of book clubs--what I really came to the page looking for. Would someone be able to aggregate some info on this? In my head this should be the real meat of the discussion.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beefbrain89 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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