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Early life and education edit request
Hello editors, this is Brooke, an employee of Chubb Limited here to post my first edit request to Evan Greenberg's article. I understand that disclosing my COI is important, so I've set up my user page to disclose that information. Before getting into my request, I also wanted to acknowledge that there is a lot of current media coverage regarding Chubb in relation to the appeal bond issued for Donald Trump, and I intend to address this in a later request but didn't want to propose any language immediately while this coverage evolves. There is some text about this on the Chubb Limited Wikipedia page, however, it does include some details that are inaccurate and unsubstantiated, so I may also reach out to editors on that Talk page later.
For now, I'd like to focus on a simple update. I've drafted a new sentence for the Early life and education section, which would ideally be placed as the first sentence of the second paragraph, just before the sentence that explains where he attended college. Specifically, I utilized a Wall Street Journal article and a Bloomberg article to add that Mr. Greenberg graduated high school at 17, then worked a few odd jobs including bartending and cooking in a nursing home. I've slotted this as well as a small change to the following sentence, into the section draft below, which can be copy and pasted over the existing section. Please read below:
Early life and education section draft
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==Early life and education== Greenberg is the son of Corinne Phyllis Zuckerman and Maurice R. Greenberg, the former chairman and CEO of American International Group (AIG).[1] He is also the younger brother of the former CEO of Marsh & McLennan, Jeffrey W. Greenberg.[2] He is Jewish.[3] After graduating high school at 17, Greenberg traveled the country working odd jobs, including cooking at a nursing home and bartending.[4][5] He later attended New York University and the College of Insurance (now part of St. John's University, New York) but did not graduate from either.[2] References
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If there are any questions about the language I've drafted or the sources I've used, please do let me know and I'll be standing by to respond. Thank you so much! Brooke at Chubb (talk) 14:48, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done Encoded Talk 💬 19:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for quickly implementing that addition Encoded. If you're interested in evaluating another edit request on this article, I'm just about to post another edit request to try and improve this page. Again, thanks so much for your time. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Career section edit request
I believe this request may be too much for editors to review and implement in one go. I'm leaving this here, but please see my fresh request below. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 13:52, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello editors, I'm back once again, this time to post a new Career section draft I've put together. Again, I have a COI, and I've disclosed it on my user page for those interested.
The existing Career section of this article is severely outdated, lacks citations, has dead links, and doesn't cover the tons of Wikipedia-eligible coverage I've found on his career. I apologize for the belabored explanation below of my changes, I wanted to attempt to explain all of the changes I have implemented here as best as I could. This draft I've put together would ideally replace the current Career section and introduces three subsections to make the new information easier to follow: Early career and AIG, Ace / Chubb, and Board roles and advocacy.
- In the Early career and AIG subsection, I added a bit of information regarding his career before working at AIG. I added specifics on his roles at AIG utilizing articles from the WSJ and New York Times. I also added some details about his time after he left AIG, and how he was courted to work at ACE, cited to a Washington Post profile piece.
- In the Ace/Chubb subsection, I continued to cite the Washington Post piece detailing his roles with the company after joining. I added information regarding the acquisition of Chubb to a New York Times piece and cited a Financial Times piece that noted the deal was the largest merger deal in property and casualty insurance history. I cited a Bloomberg piece that noted Greenberg led Chubb to become the second-largest publicly listed insurance company in the United States. There was also some coverage in the media about his attempts to acquire The Hartford, which I added details about and cited to a Hartford business article. The article also lacked mention of his business dealings in Asia, so I added details about his role in Chubb's acquisition of Huatai Insurance to a WSJ China article and cited a Barron's piece noting he led the company's acquisition of Cigna Group's Asian businesses.
- In the Board roles and advocacy subsection, I added some coverage of Greenberg's comments on being against taxpayer-funded bailouts which was published by the Philadelphia Inquirer. Additionally, around that same time, he put out a statement on behalf of the AIA noting that a majority of its members were against federal bailouts for property and casualty insurers, which I cited to a Business Insurance story. While his board position at The Coca-Cola Company is covered in the current version of the article, it didn't note that he left his role there when ACE and Chubb merged in 2016.
- I cited a story by Bloomberg noting that Greenberg is against protectionist trade policies, and a Carrier Management story that notes he's been vocally in favor of global trade. During the COVID-19 pandemic, CNBC reported that Greenberg called for a public-private partnership for pandemic risk, so I added that as well.
- I also added in the recent coverage on Chubb providing Donald Trump with an appeal bond and Greenberg putting out a letter to investors claiming the company doesn't "take sides" cited to CNBC.
- And, finally, many of the board roles Greenberg is part of are not in his article as it exists now. I've added the ones that are Wikipedia-eligible, including the Asia Society, National Geographic Society, Center for Strategic and International Studies, National Committee on United States-China Relations, Advisory Committee of Tsinghua University School of Economics and Management, National Committee on United States-China Relations, and the Board of Directors of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. Please read below:
Career section draft
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CareerEarly career and AIGIn 1975, Greenberg started working in insurance, initially working for New Hampshire Insurance Co. in its automobile policies department.[1] He began working for AIG later that year as an underwriter.[1] During the 25 years he worked for AIG, Greenberg held a number of senior management positions. He ran AIG's Japan and Korea operations from 1991 to 1994.[2] He then oversaw all international property-casualty operations from AIG's New York offices.[2] Greenberg was named president and COO in 1997 and was considered the heir apparent to take over as CEO of AIG.[3][4] Despite Greenberg being in line to take over the company, he left his position as president in September 2000.[4] He spent a year away from work to spend time with his family.[4] After seeing the impact of the September 11 attacks on the insurance industry, with insurers affected by large claims, Greenberg decided to take the opportunity to accept then-ACE CEO Brian Duperreault's offer to join ACE.[4] ACE / ChubbGreenberg joined ACE in November 2001 to lead the company's overseas unit.[4] In June 2003, he was promoted to president and chief operating officer, and in May 2004, was named CEO.[4] In May 2007, he was elected Chairman of ACE.[5] Following his promotion to CEO, Greenberg grew the company both through expansion of existing operations and through a strategy of acquisitions, acquiring 15 companies by 2015.[1] In July 2015, Greenberg led a deal for ACE to acquire the insurance company Chubb for $28.3 billion,[6] which was the largest merger deal in property and casualty insurance history.[7] Shortly prior to the deal, he broke his ankle in a horse riding accident, and he worked on the merger while recovering.[2] When the deal became official in January 2016, ACE adopted the Chubb name globally and Greenberg became chairman and CEO of Chubb.[8] By 2021, Greenberg was credited in the media for having grown Chubb to the second-largest publicly listed insurance company in the U.S.[9] and the largest non-injury insurer in the U.S. based on market value.[10] As part of the acquisition plan to continue growing Chubb, he led an attempted acquisition bid for The Hartford in 2021. After making three offers that were each declined, he stated that Chubb would not continue to pursue the acquisition.[9][11] Following the merger, Greenberg has sought to grow Chubb's presence in Asia.[12] He led the company's push to increase its holdings in Huatai Insurance, a China-based insurance company, by pursuing a regulatory change in China that would allow Chubb to become Huatai's majority owner. Officials passed the change in 2019[10] and Chubb gained majority ownership of Huatai in 2022.[13] In 2021, he led the company's acquisition of Cigna Group's Asian businesses that focused on health and accident insurance.[12] Board roles and advocacyIn the 2008 financial crisis, Greenberg opposed taxpayer-funded bailouts for the insurance industry.[14] He gave a statement on behalf of the American Insurance Association as its then-chairman, noting that most of the association's members were not in favor of including property and casualty insurers in the list of companies able to make use of available federal bailout funds.[15] In February 2011, Greenberg was named to the board of directors at The Coca-Cola Company.[16] He stepped down from the board position to focus on his role at Chubb in January 2016.[17] Greenberg has criticized protectionist trade policies[18] and spoken in favor of policies that promote global trade and U.S. interests, such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.[19] During the COVID-19 pandemic, Greenberg called for a public-private partnership for pandemic risk, saying such a program would lessen the financial blow of a future pandemic.[20] He testified at a July 2021 hearing of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, to advocate for such a program.[21] He has also advocated for better business and political relationships between the U.S. and China.[22][13] He is a member and former chairman of the US-China Business Council.[13][23] In March 2024, Greenberg defended Chubb's decision to provide former President Donald Trump a $91.6 million appeal bond for the civil case E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump in a letter to Chubb investors. He stated that the company doesn't "take sides" and that Chubb is "no way supporting the defendant",[24] as the bond assures that E. Jean Carroll will be paid if the judgment of the case is upheld.[25] As of March 2024, he serves as a member of the board of trustees for the Asia Society,[26] National Geographic Society,[27] and Center for Strategic and International Studies.[28] He is the chairman of the National Committee on United States-China Relations,[29] is on the Advisory Committee of Tsinghua University School of Economics and Management,[30] and serves on the Board of Directors of the Peterson Institute for International Economics.[31]
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I understand that this is a huge amount of content to review, so whichever editor evaluates this request, thank you so much. I will be standing by for any questions that come up. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 20:56, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Jumping back into this thread to ping some editors who've been active on this article in the past: Drmies, Encoded, and Losipov. If anybody has any questions about this draft, I will be around to answer. Thank you so much.Brooke at Chubb (talk) 14:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
New Career section request
I'm back to post a shorter version of the Career section request I posted above. The sentences in this section I'm suggesting updating currently do not have any citations at all. Here are the specific changes I'm suggesting:
- Add more detail about Evan's career before joining AIG
- Added the specific roles he had at AIG using Wall Street Journal and New York Times articles as new citations
- Included more details about Evan leaving AIG and how he took time off, then was courted to work at ACE, cited to a new Washington Post article
The proposed Career section draft in the box below would only replace up to the sentence reading, "He was considered to be the heir apparent to take over as CEO, but left the company in 2000 and joined ACE in November 2001 as its vice chairman." Beyond that (When he became CEO of ACE), I will have further edit requests to propose at a later date.
Please read below:
Career update
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In 1975, Greenberg started working in insurance, initially working for New Hampshire Insurance Co. in its automobile policies department.[1] He began working for AIG later that year as an underwriter.[1] During the 25 years he worked for AIG, Greenberg held a number of senior management positions. He ran AIG's Japan and Korea operations from 1991 to 1994.[2] He then oversaw all international property-casualty operations from AIG's New York offices.[2] Greenberg was named president and COO in 1997 and was considered the heir apparent to take over as CEO of AIG.[3][4] Despite Greenberg being in line to take over the company, he left his position as president in September 2000.[4] He spent a year away from work to spend time with his family.[4] After seeing the impact of the September 11 attacks on the insurance industry, with insurers affected by large claims, Greenberg decided to take the opportunity to accept then-ACE CEO Brian Duperreault's offer to join ACE.[4] References
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Thank you for taking the time to read and if anybody has questions I'll be around to reply. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 13:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Back into this thread to hit up editors who have been active on this page in the past: Amigao, Drmies, Encoded, and Losipov. I understand the requested edits queue is quite long right now, so I will remain patient but will be standing by if there are any follow-up questions. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 20:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I guess I'm fine with it. Drmies (talk) 23:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Drmies! Are you willing to implement the content of the request into the article? I’m also happy to see if others have feedback, of course. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 14:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- OK, done--I think. That was not as easy as you may have thought: if you "re-use" references in an edit request their names have to match up, lest we have duplicates. But all that was already a mess, and I tried to clean that up; please look at my edits and summaries. You can send the check to the usual bank in Jamaica. Now, please, in the next edit, get rid of that "it was announced". No one should care for announcements--we need cold hard facts. (It was inserted here, by an editor who never read WP:RS.) Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for removing the duplicate sentence and for fixing up the duplicate issue in the article. I've posted my next edit request with those formatting issues in mind Drmies. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 19:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks again, Drmies, both for implementing the request and wrangling the citations. I'll take a close look at how you formatted those before my next request, in which I'll also be sure to address that "it was announced" text.
- Also, I noticed a duplicate mention of Evan being in line to take over AIG in the first sentence of the third paragraph in the Career section. If you could remove the sentence, that would be great. Again, thank you so much for all of your help, it truly is appreciated. Brooke at Chubb
- OK, done--I think. That was not as easy as you may have thought: if you "re-use" references in an edit request their names have to match up, lest we have duplicates. But all that was already a mess, and I tried to clean that up; please look at my edits and summaries. You can send the check to the usual bank in Jamaica. Now, please, in the next edit, get rid of that "it was announced". No one should care for announcements--we need cold hard facts. (It was inserted here, by an editor who never read WP:RS.) Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Drmies! Are you willing to implement the content of the request into the article? I’m also happy to see if others have feedback, of course. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 14:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- I guess I'm fine with it. Drmies (talk) 23:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Career section: ACE/Chubb request
I'm back with another shorter Career section request, focusing on the next phase of Evan's career. This next piece would make the following changes to the Career section:
- Add information regarding the acquisition of Chubb cited to a New York Times piece and a Financial Times piece that noted the deal was the largest merger deal in property and casualty insurance history.
- Add that he led Chubb to become the second-largest publicly listed insurance company in the United States.
- Add details of his attempts to acquire The Hartford.
- Add mention of his business dealings in Asia, including his role in Chubb's acquisition of Huatai Insurance to a WSJ China article and how he led the company's acquisition of Cigna Group's Asian businesses.
The proposed draft in the box below would only replace the content beginning with the sentence that reads "He became CEO of ACE in 2004," along with the rest of that paragraph. (This does trim the sentences about the financial crisis and Coca-Cola role, I will have updated references and details for that in my next request.) If editors are ok with it, this could become a subsection, and I have some suggestions for how to separate the Career under different subheadings that I can share later.
Please read below:
Career update 2
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Greenberg joined ACE in November 2001 to lead the company's overseas unit.[1] In June 2003, he was promoted to president and chief operating officer, and in May 2004, was named CEO.[1] In May 2007, he was elected Chairman of ACE.[2] Following his promotion to CEO, Greenberg grew the company both through expansion of existing operations and through a strategy of acquisitions, acquiring 15 companies by 2015.[3] In July 2015, Greenberg led a deal for ACE to acquire the insurance company Chubb for $28.3 billion,[4] which was the largest merger deal in property and casualty insurance history.[5] Shortly prior to the deal, he broke his ankle in a horse riding accident, and he worked on the merger while recovering.[6] When the deal became official in January 2016, ACE adopted the Chubb name globally and Greenberg became chairman and CEO of Chubb.[7] By 2021, Greenberg was credited in the media for having grown Chubb to the second-largest publicly listed insurance company in the U.S.[8] and the largest non-injury insurer in the U.S. based on market value.[9] As part of the acquisition plan to continue growing Chubb, he led an attempted acquisition bid for The Hartford in 2021. After making three offers that were each declined, he stated that Chubb would not continue to pursue the acquisition.[8] Following the merger, Greenberg has sought to grow Chubb's presence in Asia.[10] He led the company's push to increase its holdings in Huatai Insurance, a China-based insurance company, by pursuing a regulatory change in China that would allow Chubb to become Huatai's majority owner. Officials passed the change in 2019[9] and Chubb gained majority ownership of Huatai in 2022.[11] In 2021, he led the company's acquisition of Cigna Group's Asian businesses that focused on health and accident insurance.[10] References
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I've updated the formatting to match Drmies's extremely helpful hand in order to keep the page clean. I noticed that the Washington Post reference (Starkman) has two different formats on the page, I copied the formatting from the Career section, but there may still be duplication from that reference since the formatting of the reference in Early life is different. Thank you for taking the time to read, and if anybody has questions I'll be around to reply. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 19:54, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you once again to Drmies for evaluating my request and implementing the changes. I've now closed that edit request. If you have interest in evaluating my next request, I've posted it below. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 18:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Career section: Board roles and advocacy request
I'm back once again with another Career section request, focusing on Evan's board roles and advocacy. This next piece would replace the current final sentence and make the following changes to the Career section:
- Added a two-sentence paragraph about Evan's stance against taxpayer-funded bailouts during the 2008 crisis, cited to a Philadelphia Inquirer and Business Insurance. (This was previously on the page but not fully explained and the references were confusing.)
- Added that Evan stepped down from his role as the board of directors for Coca-Cola in Jan. 2016.
- Added a paragraph on Evan's trade policy positions, specifically his comments criticizing protectionist trade policies, cited to pieces from Bloomberg and Carrier Management.
- Added a paragraph on his calls for a public-private partnership for pandemic risk during the COVID-19 pandemic. Added new citations to CNBC and Insurance Business Magazine.
- Added another new paragraph that details Chubb's decision to provide Donald Trump with a $91.6 million appeal bond for his civil case, noting that Evan was appointed by Trump to the Advisory Committee for Trade Policy and Negotiations back in 2018, serving until March 2023 when he stepped down.
- Introduced one final paragraph detailing his most notable board roles including Asia Society, National Geographic Society, Center for Strategic and International Studies, and Peterson Institute for International Economics, as well as being a chairman of the National Committee on United States-China Relations, and serving on the Advisory Committee of Tsinghua University School of Economics and Management.
Please read below:
Career update 3
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In the 2008 financial crisis, Greenberg opposed taxpayer-funded bailouts for the insurance industry.[1] He gave a statement on behalf of the American Insurance Association as its then-chairman, noting that most of the association's members were not in favor of including property and casualty insurers in the list of companies able to make use of available federal bailout funds.[2] In February 2011, Greenberg was named to the board of directors at The Coca-Cola Company.[3] He stepped down from the board position to focus on his role at Chubb in January 2016.[4] Greenberg has criticized protectionist trade policies[5] and spoken in favor of policies that promote global trade and U.S. interests, such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.[6] During the COVID-19 pandemic, Greenberg called for a public-private partnership for pandemic risk, saying such a program would lessen the financial blow of a future pandemic.[7] He testified at a July 2021 hearing of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, to advocate for such a program.[8] He has also advocated for better business and political relationships between the U.S. and China.[9][10] He is a member and former chairman of the US-China Business Council.[10][11] In March 2024, Greenberg defended Chubb's decision to provide former President Donald Trump a $91.6 million appeal bond for the civil case E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump in a letter to Chubb investors claiming the company doesn't "take sides."[12] Greenberg was appointed by Trump to the Advisory Committee for Trade Policy and Negotiations in 2018, serving on the committee from then into the Joe Biden presidency, stepping down in March 2023.[12] As of March 2024, he serves as a member of the board of trustees for the Asia Society,[13] National Geographic Society,[14] and Center for Strategic and International Studies.[15] He is the chairman of the National Committee on United States-China Relations,[16] is on the Advisory Committee of Tsinghua University School of Economics and Management,[17] and serves on the Board of Directors of the Peterson Institute for International Economics.[18] References
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Again, I've updated the formatting to match Drmies's suggestion to keep the page clean. If editors are happy with making this addition, the resulting Career section will be longer than it was originally. To make it easier to read, I suggest adding subsection headings:
- For the first two paragraphs: "Early career and AIG"
- For the next three paragraphs, starting "Greenberg joined ACE in November 2001": "ACE / Chubb"
- For the remaining paragraphs: "Board roles and advocacy"
These are just suggestions that fit best with what is covered in the section, so editors might have other thoughts, too. I'll be around to reply if editors have questions. Brooke at Chubb (talk) 18:03, 26 April 2024 (UTC)