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• Information to be added or removed: I would like improve this article by adding a secondary source citation about Lewis F. Byington as a District Attorney.
• Explanation of issue: Article needs citations that are secondary sources, verifiable and neutral to article.
• References supporting change: Add the following citation: As District Attorney, Byington established new conditions and broadened responsibilities that resulted in a greater number of criminal convictions since his election.Evarts, Blake (1902). San Francisco; a brief biographical sketch of some of the most prominent men who will preside over her destiny for at least two year. San Francisco: Pacific Publishing Company. Retrieved 2020-09-03. --Greg Henderson (talk) 17:13, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this article for neutral POV and appropriate sourcing. Go4thProsper (talk) 21:44, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Information to be added or removed: I would like improve this article by adding a primary source citation about Lewis F. Byington as President of the Public Utilities Commission.
• Explanation of issue: Article needs citations that are primary sources, verifiable and neutral to article.
• References supporting change: Add the following citation: "As President of the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission, Byington was responsible for the completion of the aqueduct and tunnels of the Hetch Hetchy system that brought water to San Francisco."Report of the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission. San Francisco, Calif. : The Commission]. 1933. Retrieved 2020-09-14. --Greg Henderson (talk) 23:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I edited the article for WP:NPOV and WP:NOTEVERYTHING. I incorporated one of the edit requests as the other didn’t merit inclusion. I removed the paragraphs about the letter from the governor about an unresolved case and the committee for the statue that was not completed. Both clearly fail to rise to notability and violate the NOTEVERYTHING test. Go4thProsper (talk) 00:06, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did not eliminate the professional affiliations, instead moving them to a new subheading. However, these may not merit inclusion either for the same reasons. Rather than delete them, I leave the matter up for group discussion and consensus. After consensus is achieved on this matter one way of the other, I recommend removal of the COI maintenance template at the top of the article. Go4thProsper (talk) 00:06, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Information to be added or removed: I would like to add a link to the existing citation for San Francisco Its Builders, Past and Present Pictorial and Biographical.
• Explanation of issue: Editor wants WP:RSs.
• References supporting change: Update the citation #5 under section Career: San Francisco Its Builders, Past and Present : Pictorial and Biographical · Volume 2, 1913, S.J. Clarke, p. 249.--Greg Henderson (talk) 00:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Sennecaster (What now?) 16:30, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elaboration to above: Adding links to offline sources/archive URLs of already existing references isn't really something an EDRQ needs to be made for. Feel free to add them yourself in the future. Sennecaster (What now?) 16:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I went ahead and added it. --Greg Henderson (talk) 21:31, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Information to be added or removed: I would like to add a new citation for Byington's dedication of the Native Sons of the Golden West building.
• Explanation of issue: Editor wants WP:RSs.
• References supporting change: Update the Private life and affiliations section: "Byington acted as chairman of the ceremonies speaking to the audience about the history of the building during the dedication on September 15, 1912." Native Sons Dedicate New Building. --Greg Henderson (talk) 01:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. See Edit Request C for rationale. Sennecaster (What now?) 16:35, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This citation has been added. --Greg Henderson (talk) 21:45, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Information to be added or removed: I would like to add a new citation written by Edward W. Parker about Byington and the justice system.
• Explanation of issue: Editor wants WP:RSs.
• References supporting change: Add to the Career section to add: "On 12 Jan 1916, Edward W. Parker, of the San Francisco Chronicle, spoke about the history of the justice system and how Byington was a leading attorney in San Francisco that took a major part for clean business management and civic betterment." Bench and Bar has Picturesque History. --Greg Henderson (talk) 04:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Question: I don't fully understand why you want this in the article. It seems like it wouldn't fit in the proposed section and does not help establish notability as it is. Why do you think this would fit in that section and would help fit notability? Once those are answered I would support a partial implementation. Sennecaster (What now?) 16:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sennecaster: the article talks about the History of the Bar and that Lewis F. Byington was a leading attorney of San Francisco who has over the years became Supervisor (1898), District Attorney (elected three times); Vice President of the California Historic Landmarks League; and grand president of the Native Sons of the Golden West. So, the opening text under "Career" would be: "Byington was an active representative of the legal profession in San Francisco for a period covering more than four decades. As a member of the California bar, he practiced in the Supreme and Federal courts of California. In 1898, he was elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors." (the rest of the text in this section would be the same). --Greg Henderson (talk) 22:08, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Partly done: I added a sentence explaining he was elected District Attorney twice more, which is what the article says that's not already here. PK650 (talk) 22:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Information to be added or removed: Add a See also section.
• Explanation of issue: Editor wants WP:RSs.
• References supporting change: Add to the See also section the link to: List of San Francisco district attorneys. --Greg Henderson (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Joe (talk) 10:11, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Information to be added or removed: Add citation for entry in the biography.
• Explanation of issue: Editor wants cite case for notability criterion for any biography
• References supporting change: Add to "Career" section, the citation for (link to biography)

--Greg Henderson (talk) 16:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Question: Where in that section do you want the citation to be added? Sennecaster (What now?) 16:44, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sennecaster:Please add under "Career" section after sentence: Lewis Byington was a member of the California bar. His practice was in the Supreme Court and Federal Courts of California. link to biography.--Greg Henderson (talk) 18:29, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since this was a minor addition of a citation (no text was added), I went ahead and added the citation. --Greg Henderson (talk) 22:25, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The current article lists Byington as being District Attorney of San Francisco from 1890-1905, whereas the San Francisco District Attorney page lists his tenure from 1900-1905. One of the two sources on the Byington article is a book I do not have and the second is a newspaper archive I cannot access. The source for the San Francisco District Attorney clearly lists Byington as having been in office from 1900-1905. Someone with access to the book and/or the website needs to re-check the dates and, if they are in fact 1890-1905, we'll need to resolve which source is correct. Joe (talk) 10:22, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JoePhin:, Yes the dates 1900-1905 are correct. Please correct the article as I am a COI editor. The citations for this edit are listed here: Byington biography with DA election in 1899, which he held for six years and San Francisco District Attorney's Office wiki page. --Greg Henderson (talk) 18:38, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done PK650 (talk) 22:37, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone remove the WP:COI tag? It has been over a year and looks like a cleanup has been done to comply with Wikipedia's content policies WP:WTRMT. Thanks! --Greg Henderson (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I don't believe in using tags for public shaming or scorn, so in this case I agree. But we must ensure all COI requests are petitioned through the appropriate channels and no edits are made by COI editors. PK650 (talk) 23:28, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Information to be added or removed: Add text and citation under "Private life and affiliations" section. Text reads: On August 8, 1921, Byington gave a speech titled, "Kit Carson's Place in History," for the dedication of the Kit Carson landmark of a bronze tablet placed at Carson Pass in Alpine County, California.
• Explanation of issue: To include speech by Byington.
• References supporting change: ^[1][2] --Greg Henderson (talk) 17:25, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: Hi there. Not sure why this is noteworthy? I mean, he spoke in his capacity with the Native Sons, and seems routine to me. PK650 (talk) 23:16, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Information to be added or removed: Add text and citation under "Career" section. Text reads: On April 4, 1837, Byington gave a eulogy at the unveiling of a portrait of James Rolph Jr., and dropped the veils from the busts of James D. Phelan and James Rolph, former mayors of San Francisco, at the City Hall rotunda.
• Explanation of issue: To include eulogy For SF Mayors by Byington.
• References supporting change: ^[1] --Greg Henderson (talk) 21:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Same applies as above. PK650 (talk) 23:16, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Please add to the early life section the following:
  • Byington was born on May 24, 1868, in Downieville, California. He was a son of Lewis Byington and Catherine Freehill Byington.^[1]

Greg Henderson (talk) 23:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Below is a great bio of Lewis Francis Byington.^[1]
• Please add this citation in the following places:

1. Under Career, please change the sentence: "Lewis Byington was a member of the California bar." to "Lewis Byington was a member of the California bar. He has practiced law in San Francisco since 1890.
2. Add the citation to the setence: "In 1898 he was elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors."
3. Add the same citation to the sentence: "On November 8, 1899 Byington was elected San Francisco District Attorney, serving from 1900–1905"

Greg Henderson (talk) 01:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]